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Fixes #23878

I botched this in Perl 5.42. These conditional compilation statements in locale.c were just plain wrong, causing code to be skipped that should have been compiled. It only affected the few hours of the year when daylight savings time is removed, so that the hour value is repeated. We didn't have a good test for that.

gory details:

libc uses 'struct tm' to hold information about a given instant in time, containing fields for things like the year, month, hour, etc. The libc function mktime() is used to normalize the structure, adjusting, say, an input Nov 31 to be Dec 01.

One of the fields in the structure, 'is_dst', indicates if daylight savings is in effect, or whether that fact is unknown. If unknown, mktime() is supposed to calculate the answer and to change 'is_dst' accordingly. Some implementations appear to always do this calculation even when the input value says the result is known. Others appear to honor it.

Some libc implementations have extra fields in 'struct tm'.

Perl has a stripped down version of mktime(), called mini_mktime(), written by Larry Wall a long time ago. I don't know why. This crippled version ignores locale and daylight time. It also doesn't know about the extra fields in 'struct tm' that some implementations have. Nor can it be extended to know about those fields, as they are dependent on timezone and daylight time, which it deliberately doesn't consider.

The botched #ifdef's were supposed to compensate for both the extra fields in the struct and that some libc implementations always recalculate 'is_dst'.

On systems with these fields, the botched #if's caused only mini_mktime() to be called. This meant that these extra fields didn't get populated, and daylight time is never considered to be in effect. And 'is_dst' does not get changed from the input.

On systems without these fields, the regular libc mktime() would be called appropriately.

The bottom line is that for the portion of the year when daylight savings is not in effect, things mostly worked properly. The two extra fields would not be populated, so if some code were to read them, it would only get the proper values by chance. We got no failure reports of this. I attribute that to the fact that the use of these is not portable, so code wouldn't tend to use them. There are portable ways to access the information they contain.

Tests were failing for the portions of the year when daylight savings is in effect; see GH #22351. The code looked correct just reading it (not seeing the flaw in the #ifdef's), so I assumed that it was an issue in the libc implementations and instituted a workaround. (I can't now think of a platform where there hasn't been a problem with a libc with something regarding locales, so that was a reasonable assumption.)

Among other things that workaround overrode the 'is_dst' field after the call to mini_mktime(), so that the value actually passed to libc strftime() indicated that daylight is in effect.

What happens next depends on the libc strftime() implementation. It could conceivably itself call mktime() which might choose to override is_dst to be the correct value, and everything would always work. The more likely possibility is that it just takes the values in the struct as-is. Remember that those values on systems with the extra fields were calculated as if daylight savings wasn't in effect, but now we're telling strftime() to use those values as if it were in effect. This is a discrepancy. I'd have to trace through some libc implementations to understand why this discrepancy seems to not matter except at the transition time.

But the bottom line is this p.r removes that discrepancy, and causes mktime() to be called appropriately on systems where it wasn't, so strftime() should now function properly. And the workarounds are also removed.

This regression fix should go into a maintenance release.

  • This set of changes requires a perldelta entry, and it is included.

@khwilliamson khwilliamson force-pushed the strftime branch 2 times, most recently from 61bab2c to 338b313 Compare November 16, 2025 18:34
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jkeenan commented Nov 18, 2025

@khwilliamson, this p.r. had 2 failures in CI, one on Windows, one on Linux. Could you make a smoke-me branch out of this so that we can test it on some other platforms? Thanks.

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After a lot of effort (facilitated by @bram-perl, I have concluded that the i386 failure is due to a bug in its glibc.

< Return from localtime for 1741510799= tm_sec=59, tm_min=59, tm_hour=0, tm_mday=9, tm_mon=2, tm_year=125, isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800, tm_zone=PST
> Return from localtime for 1741510799= tm_sec=59, tm_min=59, tm_hour=1, tm_mday=9, tm_mon=2, tm_year=125, isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200, tm_zone=PDT

The call marked < is my 64-bit Linux box compiled with g++ The one marked > is i386 32-bit compiled with gcc. (The same results are obtained if I use gcc on my box.) Notice that the calls are passed identical inputs, but have different outputs. The i386 one improperly thinks daylight savings time is in effect, and adjusts the hour and offset from gmt accordingly.

Further, I note the man page for localtime on my box says something belied by the result, and not supported by either the C or POSIX standards. It says that daylight is set to 1 if the locale has dst in effect for any time of the year.

I'll investigate using gmtime instead to work around the libc issue here (and maybe on other platforms).

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jkeenan commented Nov 19, 2025

After a lot of effort (facilitated by @bram-perl, I have concluded that the i386 failure is due to a bug in its glibc.

< Return from localtime for 1741510799= tm_sec=59, tm_min=59, tm_hour=0, tm_mday=9, tm_mon=2, tm_year=125, isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800, tm_zone=PST
> Return from localtime for 1741510799= tm_sec=59, tm_min=59, tm_hour=1, tm_mday=9, tm_mon=2, tm_year=125, isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200, tm_zone=PDT

The call marked < is my 64-bit Linux box compiled with g++ The one marked > is i386 32-bit compiled with gcc. (The same results are obtained if I use gcc on my box.) Notice that the calls are passed identical inputs, but have different outputs. The i386 one improperly thinks daylight savings time is in effect, and adjusts the hour and offset from gmt accordingly.

Further, I note the man page for localtime on my box says something belied by the result, and not supported by either the C or POSIX standards. It says that daylight is set to 1 if the locale has dst in effect for any time of the year.

I'll investigate using gmtime instead to work around the libc issue here (and maybe on other platforms).

Would we need to investigate this on other platforms (e.g., FreeBSD)? Or with other C-compilers (e.g., clang)? If so, can you provide specfic instructions?

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What version of glibc is this? Can you get a C testcase please?

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khwilliamson commented Nov 20, 2025

perl -V gives gnulibc_version='2.41' and libc=/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

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@jkeenan All major platforms have bugs with their locale handling; Darwin being the worst. I have written lots of workarounds for our code. And lots of skips for our tests for particular platforms.

This one just happened to show up. There's no telling what others are out there. This bug is just for a moment in time, and could easily be an entry in their database that is wrong, and we wouldn't know what other moments in time are also problematic. I'll see if using gmtime instead of localtime fixes this; I have my doubts. In any case, this came up due to a new test case I just added. I'm doing a smoke-me now.

The next commits that fix some bugs showed these were not properly
getting initialized.
On some systems this was unused.  Now that we have C99, we can move the
declaration and some #ifdef's and not declare it unless it is going to
be used.
tl;dr:

Fixes GH Perl#23878

I botched this in Perl 5.42.  These conditional compilation statements
were just plain wrong, causing code to be skipped that should have been
compiled.  It only affected the few hours of the year when daylight
savings time is removed, so that the hour value is repeated.  We didn't
have a good test for that.

gory details:

libc uses 'struct tm' to hold information about a given instant in
time, containing fields for things like the year, month, hour, etc.  The
libc function mktime() is used to normalize the structure, adjusting,
say, an input Nov 31 to be Dec 01.

One of the fields in the structure, 'is_dst', indicates if daylight
savings is in effect, or whether that fact is unknown.  If unknown,
mktime() is supposed to calculate the answer and to change 'is_dst'
accordingly.  Some implementations appear to always do this calculation
even when the input value says the result is known.  Others appear to
honor it.

Some libc implementations have extra fields in 'struct tm'.

Perl has a stripped down version of mktime(), called mini_mktime(),
written by Larry Wall a long time ago.  I don't know why.  This crippled
version ignores locale and daylight time.  It also doesn't know about
the extra fields in 'struct tm' that some implementations have.  Nor can
it be extended to know about those fields, as they are dependent on
timezone and daylight time, which it deliberately doesn't consider.

The botched #ifdef's were supposed to compensate for both the extra
fields in the struct and that some libc implementations always
recalculate 'is_dst'.

On systems with these fields, the botched #if's caused only
mini_mktime() to be called.  This meant that these extra fields didn't
get populated, and daylight time is never considered to be in effect.
And 'is_dst' does not get changed from the input.

On systems without these fields, the regular libc mktime() would be
called appropriately.

The bottom line is that for the portion of the year when daylight
savings is not in effect, that portion worked properly.  The two extra
fields would not be populated, so if some code were to read them, it
would only get the proper values by chance.  We got no reports of this.
I attribute that to the fact that the use of these is not portable, so
code wouldn't tend to use them.  There are portable ways to access the
information they contain.

Tests were failing for the portions of the year when daylight savings is
in effect; see GH Perl#22351.  The code looked correct just reading it (not
seeing the flaw in the #ifdef's), so I assumed that it was an issue in
the libc implementations and instituted a workaround.  (I can't now
think of a platform where there hasn't been a problem with a libc with
something regarding locales, so that was a reasonable assumption.)

Among other things (fixed in the next commit), that workaround overrode
the 'is_dst' field after the call to mini_mktime(), so that the value
actually passed to libc strftime() indicated that daylight is in effect.

What happens next depends on the libc strftime() implementation.  It
could conceivably itself call mktime() which might choose to override
is_dst to be the correct value, and everything would always work.  The
more likely possibility is that it just takes the values in the struct
as-is.  Remember that those values on systems with the extra fields were
calculated as if daylight savings wasn't in effect, but now we're
telling strftime() to use those values as if it were in effect.  This
is a discrepancy.  I'd have to trace through some libc implementations
to understand why this discrepancy seems to not matter except at the
transition time.

But the bottom line is this commit removes that discrepancy, and causes
mktime() to be called appropriately on systems where it wasn't, so
strftime() should now function properly.
Because of the bug fixed in the previous commit, this function was
changed in 5.42 to have a work around, which is no longer needed.
Because of the bug fixed two commits ago, this function was changed in
5.42 to have a work around, which is no longer needed.
Due to the differences in various systems' implementations, I think it
is a good idea to more fully document the vagaries I have discovered,
and how perl resolves them.
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I earlier uploaded a .c file to reproduce the problem. I later found a bug. Here is a corrected version
localtime_bug.c

Using it, I found that this libc thinks daylight time starts precisely 5 hours earlier than it actually does.

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Change in output of strftime from v5.40 to v5.42

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